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I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Engagement is more constructive, for all parties involved, than abolition.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. My experience in an all female sorority, a diverse and inspiring group of young women, was one of the highlights of my time at Dartmouth. I lived in my sorority house for two years and benefited greatly from having an all-female space to retire to at the end of each day. I welcome the proposed changes to improve Dartmouth’s Greek system and address sexual assault and binge drinking, but would deplore a decision to eradicate entirely a system that has supported and continues to support generations of young women (and men).
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. This is a comprehensive and serious plan. The Greek system at Dartmouh should be embraced, not destroyed. It represents a place to call home in Hanover for many alumni.
I am pleased to see this effort. The best way for the Greek system to ensure their future at Dartmouth is to generate a solution from within that addresses the concerns of the larger community. The only way that the Greek system will successfully evolve to thrive in today’s Dartmouth community and in the current social/political climate is to promote a new vision from within, not to have an external vision mandated – that never works. Good luck!
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. The Greek system had such a profoundly positive impact on my life that I tear up thinking about the possibility that the college would one day decide to separate all ties from it. I know there are some problems plaguing Dartmouth, problems that may have strong correlations with the Greek system, but we should not jump to such rash decisions as getting rid of an institution that has had such a lasting effect on so many Dartmouth alumni’s lives. Please think this through.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I strongly believe the consensus Social Contract deserves a fair trial.
I am writing in support of the Greek system and its 172 year history of forging lifelong friendships, strengthening the Dartmouth community, teaching generations of students lessons in leadership and service, and upholding the traditions that make Dartmouth the unique and special place it is.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I wholeheartedly support the continued existence of the GLOs at Dartmouth. I commend the efforts of the organizations to continue improvement in the areas mentioned in their proposal. In the area of sexual assault, please remember that these crimes are committed by individuals, and in my opinion, casting blame on an entire organization or culture for a violent act committed by a criminal is counterproductive. When I was in school, sexual assaults happened and were routinely ignored by the college. We confined discussion of these crimes to meetings and workshops where speakers cast blame on “the system” which supposedly encouraged and coddled these criminals. Even then, I thought, “these are crimes inflicted on members of our community. Who are these guys doing this? Let’s stop talking about culture and go get those creeps.” When a rapist rapes, name him and shame him, and throw him out of school. He is a violent criminal. Let the legal system deal with him. If, and I think that’s a big if, there is a culture of approval of sexual assault in a fraternity, it will die a quick and well deserved death. In the area of binge drinking, remember that your students represent a sliver of the most driven and accomplished students anywhere in the world. They did not come to Dartmouth to get C’s and D’s. They came to excel, just as they did when they were earning that coveted admission. Make them work. No more gut classes. The teaching at Dartmouth when I was a student was courteous, respectful, and too easy. Those professors who were determined to find out if I had done the work of preparing for class got my attention quickly, and my weeknight plans changed accordingly. I wish there had been more like that. Load them up with work, and watch them make the same choices that they made to get in to Dartmouth. Those who don’t will soon be gone. Students will still binge drink on occasion, but those occasions will be by necessity rare. Thanks for listening.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. My time in my fraternity helped me to build a strong and lasting bond with a number of wonderful men, and positively shaped who I am as a person! Keep the Greek Community as it is.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Save the fraternity ! DCB
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. On the topic of inclusivity, I was recently visiting Cornell and was disturbed by how exclusive the fraternities were. You were not allowed in any party unless you knew someone who was important to the house. It was not a good feeling when my friends and I were turned away from a party when we were trying to have a good time and meet new people. Dartmouth’s current Greek System allows for people to explore different houses meet many different types of people. In the rest of my time here and after I graduate, I do not want anyone to be turned away from a party for no good reason other than they do not know anyone. Meeting new people and making new friends is vital to one’s college experience. I believe that the current manner in which houses allow any member of the college to enter if they are hosting an event is crucial to the sense of community at Dartmouth for those who are affiliated or unaffiliated.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Throughout my time at Dartmouth one of my proudest associations was being a brother of Beta. Coming into Dartmouth I was very excited about the diversity and culture Dartmouth provided. I had an older brother who was an 09 and I wanted to have a similar experience that he did. He was a founding brother of Beta when it was brought back on campus in 08-09. My first year on campus was spent mostly in my dorm room, the classroom, and at football. However, joining Beta my sophomore year changed my Dartmouth experience. Beta brought together leaders from all over campus and created one of the most diverse groups on campus. I was surrounded by young men that represented the entire campus. The people I became friends with was not limited to just Beta. Being in a fraternity allowed me to become friends with guys and girls from all over campus in other houses. Dartmouth fraternities are not just about drinking in a basement and the evidence shows that. Whether it is singing and dance groups performing at Beta on weekday nights, the amount of money TDX raises for the Prouty, and the vast amount of work Dartmouth Greek system provides not only to the college, but to the upper valley. Being in a fraternity was one of the main reasons I grew from a boy to a young man at my time at Dartmouth. Yes, there are a few bad apples that have caused turmoil within the system but that should not be a representation of how important Greek life is to Dartmouth. Dartmouth needs the Greek system. We hold ourselves to a high standard at Dartmouth but it would ruin the college that I love if the Greek System was taken away.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I am very dismayed that another and very robust movement is threatening fraternities and sororities at Dartmouth. As far as I am concerned they are an integral part of the Dartmouth experience, an overall positive force in the college experience. Reducing their presence will only make Dartmouth more like other nondescript colleges. The popularity for undergraduates speaks for itself. Respect that. Respect the majority who have come before. My daughter (’11), son-in-law (’10), and I would feel disenfranchised from Dartmouth if the Greek system is diminished and made the “fall guy” for social problems that are occurring.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I think that a refusal to consider what clearly represents a comprehensive and sincere attempt at self-improvement on the part of the Greek system would be foolish and misguided. My best Dartmouth friends to this day are fellow Tri Delts, and I can’t imagine my time in Hanover without that experience.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
The issues covered in the proposal are serious, but must be addressed in a manner that preserves students’ rights and interests in free association and social organization. I participated in Dartmouth’s Greek system, personally learned a great deal from it, and have not observed that friends who attended other colleges without greek life avoided the issues that, unfortunately, arise at colleges around the country these days.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. In September a group of Beta 65s met in Seattle for our annual reunion. We can probably call these lifelong friendships after 50 years. For us the Dartmouth experience was immeasurably enhanced by the Beta house. It wasn’t merely our fraternity, it was Dartmouth and our fraternity that keep us active in college affairs. Largely because of our experience in a fraternity, members of our Greek organization have contributed significantly to the college as undergraduates and alumni. Excessive efforts to sterilize the Dartmouth experience are likely to turn our unique institution into just a very selective diploma mill.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Outside of electing to attend Dartmouth College, pledging into the Greek community was the best decision of my life. It would be a shame if future Dartmouth students weren’t granted this opportunity.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Some of my fondest memories of Dartmouth were with my fraternity brothers. Not possible had the Greek system not existed.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Coming from a small, all-girls high school, the Greek system and my sorority in particular (Kappa Kappa Gamma) offered me a strong, close-knit community of women within the large campus that became an integral part of my Dartmouth experience, led to lifelong friendships, and helped me develop leadership skills that prepared me for life in the corporate world. While Dartmouth faces many pressing issues, disbanding the Greek system is not the answer; leadership must work in conjunction with the Greek system to create real, meaningful change from within the community.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. My God, if you can’t accept this proposal, the college does not deserve any support from former Greek members!
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. The values and skills I learned and the experiences I had as a member of Tri-Kap provided me with the rounded education I could not have obtained without being part of a Greek organization. Now as an Advisor who keeps up with what is going on in Hanover, I believe there is still no better way for undergraduates to learn the skills and have the experiences that turn men into true leaders. You might be able to abolish the Greek system at the College , but the Greek system lives on outside of the College. So why make the Campus not reflective of reality and deny students the opportunity to learn how to deal with reality in a safe environment. I recognize the system is not perfect. But there is no system on earth that is. Let’s keep improving the system and producing world leaders who make positive contributions.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I have been closely affiliated with SAE since my undergrad years and and a Trustee since 1965 and have seen some of the best and worst years for the chapter. Needless to say the Chapter has played a major role in helping to put this plan together and and I fully support their efforts and look forward to the support from the College.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Going Greek is a CHOICE, just like joining band or playing a sport or being in a club. Let college students keep that CHOICE.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I have read the Proposal, and it seems like a reasonable compromise for all.
As the alumni advisor to Theta Delta Chi, I wholeheartedly support this student-led effort to demonstrate leadership with regard to reforming social life at Dartmouth. While I may not agree with every point or idea in the proposal, I do beleive that moulding such a broad based coalition to produce this document is ultimately what was most imporrtant. It highlights the broad support of the Greek system from both affliliated and unaffiliated undergrads, alumni and parents. While this group is an important constituency, they cannot hope to reform student life on their own. Dartmouth’s administration and faculty have an obligation to do their part. I applaud the Trustees’ and President’s efforts to date, but frankly think the faculty must be urged strongly if not required to do more. We all recognize that faculty are not incentivized to spend time actively participating in student life, and so most of them don’t. That must change. Most of my closest friendships come from those forged in my fraternity as an undergraduate. Please do not take that opportunity away from future men and women of Dartmouth.
While the Greek system is not perfect, it has many valuable attributes to it that I believe outweigh the negative. I believe a better response is to continue to work to improve the system rather than just dismantling it.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Losing the Greek system would be losing an important outlet and voice for women in particular. Educational studies show that women learn to be leaders best in all-female environments, and I certainly feel that was the case for me at Dartmouth. For the first time, I felt comfortable expressing myself in a leadership position as opposed to shrinking within my position. This experience, as well as the continued support and inspiration of my sisters after graduation, would not be the same if the Greek system were abolished. I firmly believe that an alternative house/social system would not have the same empowering effect, nor would it lead to the same continued alumni support- of the college and of each other.
I am writing in support of “The Greek Proposal” to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I support the Greek proposal wholeheartedly! Doug Watson
First, thank you for all you’re doing to Move Dartmouth Forward. As the Alumni Advisor to what is now Chi Gamma Epsilon (previously Kappa Sigma), I am enormously proud of the Greek community for having come together on The Greek Proposal, an initiative that I believe can serve as a springboard for a greatly strengthened Greek community that will, in turn, help foster significant strides forward for Dartmouth student life in general. Phil Hanlon has recognized that effective positive change must come from students themselves. The Greek community has shown that that message has been received. I urge that The Greek Proposal be taken to heart and that these students be given the opportunity to take the lead in working to make Dartmouth a better place for everyone. The Greek “system” is seen by some to be the source of all problems at Dartmouth. This view I believe to be completely unfair and amazingly myopic. Greek organizations represent the best means available for finding solutions to these problems. With The Greek Proposal, I believe they have earned a prominent seat at the table, and that they should be afforded the opportunity to make good on what I believe will prove to be a sincere commitment to making our College a safer, more inclusive place for all of us. Again, thank you. Jim Adler ’60
People are screaming for change at Dartmouth and now a viable plan has been presented to you for consideration. Please do the right thing.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I fully support our fraternity and sorority system as a positive in my life and in my daughter’s life D’17. We can move forward with positive changes, but overall the Greek system is a positive experience for the majority of students and alumni.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today.I specifically support the recommendations in the mGreel message tp the steerng ommittee.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Without a strong Greek system in place at Dartmouth I would lose a significant, if not essentially all, of my visceral connection to the school. When I go back to Dartmouth as an alum, I head straight to Theta Delt to meet up with old friends and we pick up right where we left off – I can’t imagine not having that option. I simply would never come back to campus.
I support the set of reforms suggested by the Greek organizations, and I believe it would be a mistake to eliminate such organizations from the Dartmouth campus. Although I am a member a national sorority, that affiliation is much less important to me than my connection to Dartmouth and the safety of my children, one of whom is a Dartmouth student. I support this proposal because I believe it is in the best interest of both Dartmouth as an institution and its students.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Next to family, Dartmouth was the most important experience in my life. My involvement in my fraternity was the best part of my time at Dartmouth. It developed leadership skills, taught me how to get along with others, and helped me grow up. My fraternity brothers are my best life-long friends. I have already provided additional material to the Steering Committee including the Alumni Council ad hoc Committee to Support Greek Letter Organizations’ Report. I would be happy to help in any way. Thanks J.B.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I am not a student at Dartmouth, but I have a few friends at the College. I am a member of the Omega Chapter of Kappa Kappa Gamma (University of Kansas), and I cannot imagine my life without this sorority. The guidance, networking opportunities, friends, and memories with which these women have gifted me is unparalleled, and I’m sure most of the sorority and fraternity women and men on your campus would say the same. There are issues that come from Greek houses on every campus, and as always, they need to be addressed. I have confidence in the execution of your proposals, though; you have the ability to continue Greek life while maintaining a safe campus for all students. Best of luck.
It’s not perfect, but I think it’s a step in the right direction. The most important part is to actually raise undergrads to care about these issues. It will be impossible to just achieve through means of behavior modification. There needs to a be heart and mind modification.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. The Greek system at Dartmouth must be preserved and strengthened, not eliminated due to the loud, often misdirected, misguided complaints of a very vocal minority. Lifelong friendships have been formed due to the Greek system at Dartmouth and the commitment to Dartmouth College cannot be stronger.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Change has to come from within and the Greek leaders have made unprecedented steps toward changing the negative aspects of fraternity life. The positive aspects (community, social, friendship, philanthropy) are already in place. If we get rid of fraternities to “solve” the social problems, the problems will go into dorms or out onto the streets in bars. Its so much safer, and smarter, to keep the “problems” in the open.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. This is a very thoughtful and well-constructed plan.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. As a former member of Kappa Kappa Gamma, and someone who in my junior year almost depledged due to inequalities I saw in the house, I will never regret that last year and a half I had with my KKG sisters as we were able to make systemic changes from the INSIDE out. I felt that I would have more power to change majority opinion within the greek system if we were to support open dialogue, awareness of issues that needed to change and utilized the power of this interconnected group of women operating as a larger group. I was proud of the new attitudes that became pervasive, accepting and supporting those who we had failed to recognize previously – more from a lack of awareness than anything else. Why not develop a plan to help change attitudes, awareness and action. Give students the tools they need to address the pressing and important issues at hand without eliminating a potentially powerful ally that is already structured and established on campus. I believe that Dartmouth has smart, caring, compassionate students who can sometimes (like all of us) make bad decisions. Let’s help them learn how to make better ones, to respect each other and operate as good citizens and community members. I don’t think that you have to remove the Greek system to accomplish that. I cherish many of the friendships that I had in KKG – especially with women in older grades and then in subsequent years, below me. I hope that opportunity remains available in the years to come.
I applaud both the College and the GLO for recognizing that behaviors must change. The positive aspects of GLO far outweigh the negative. “Extremism” is not what the GLO are about. I was blessed to have my undergraduate experience enhanced by my time in Beta. I was also fortunate to make life long friends. Abolishing the system would be a step backward. Revising the system will inspire the current undergrads and their followers to act maturely and provide them with some meaningful life lessons. Thank you.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today as an alumna and a parent.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Dispanding the Greek System would negatively change that social atmosphere at Dartmouth forever, would eliminate one of the main differentiators Dartmouth has against other Ivy League institutions and erase hundreds of years of history of brotherhood and sisterhood. The egregious exaggerations of few in the media have cast an unjust dark light on the Greek System today. My Dartmouth experience would have been unfulfilled without Greek Life and I will forever look back fondly on my experiences. Resist the temptation to be compelled by media and outside forces to change a tradition that is deeply engrained in Dartmouth and its history. Educating our Greek leaders on making smarter and safer decisions is key to the future of Greek Life. However, the thought of Dartmouth without the Greek System is something I would not want to be associated with.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Chris Pfaff
The Greek system does not need to be abolished. It is the primary social outlet for all students, not just members.
I am concerned if the Steering Committee is not hearing from a broad enough spectrum of representative voices in terms of outright banning of traditional Greek system. I am confident that, like other colleges in the country, Dartmouth can develop safeguards to prevent the more egregious violations of student conduct which in many cases involve personal integrity and personal responsibility rather than seeking to blame others for one’s own mistakes.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Reading the proposal made me proud to call myself a Dartmouth Graduate. The proposal is serious and mature. The Administration should be proud to accept such a thoughtful and unanimous proposal from its students. -Rich Winter ’91
The steering committee’s best response to the little tyrants who want to ruin Dartmouth for the large majority of students and alumni who prefer if not love the College status quo of the last 150 years would be to tell them to transfer to a different institution. It is a small College, but there are those who hate it.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Flawed as it is, Greek life was a huge part of my Dartmouth experience and the recent controversy and contentiousness has been heartbreaking. I would love to see reform and improvement within the system, but I think it unfair that a vocal minority has overpowered the conversation and demanded complete abolition. Students are voting with their feet and overwhelming demonstrated their support of Greek organizations, their perspective must be included in the conversation.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I strongly believe that the Greek system should remain in place at Dartmouth as it is an integral and valuable part of the experience. Although not perfect in some regards, I believe the new “Social Contracts” go a long way to mending some of these issues and should be allowed a significant trial period.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. As a former member of a Dartmouth Fraternity, I can attest to the importance of the Greek system on campus. I can appreciate the need to make changes to the system. However, I strongly believe any change should preserve the fundamental benefits the Greek system provides a Dartmouth student. It is to these means that I support the Greek Proposal to the “Moving Dartmouth Forward” steering committee.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal . The Greek system has proven itself time and again with superior GPAs, and significant community service. I would challenge the faculty who have voted to kill the Greek system to share their experiences with the Greek system. My experience proved many faculty have never set foot in a fraternity and have no real experience on which to base their negative opinions.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Please don’t fail to consider the friendships and positive experiences that come from the Greek system. They were an integral part of the Dartmouth experience when I attended, and I learned many things from my fraternity brothers that helped me during and after my Dartmouth years. The benefits of voluntary association that the system provides is an important part of undergraduate education, in my view.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Greek life is an important part of Dartmouth culture.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. The Greek system has provided a strong sense of community otherwise lacking at Dartmouth and served as the center of campus social life for years, and should be incorporated and built upon as a critical part of the solution in Hanover moving ahead. The changes proposed would strengthen the Greek system and student life.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Please do not let the faculty bully you into a bad decision. They have as much right to vote down the greek system as the student body has to vote down tenure.
I am writing in vehement support of the Greek system at Dartmouth. Beyond a social arena for Dartmouth students, the Dartmouth fraternities are home to years of tradition that have produced generations of loyal Dartmouth alumni — people who view Dartmouth as the pinnacle of undergraduate education, who couldn’t imagine their progeny attending any other school. My fraternity brothers were a constant source of friendship, heated intellectual discussion, and yes, sometimes fun — and our bond remains strong to this day. But also, the culture that lives inside the walls of Phi Delta Alpha is sacrosanct to me and to many. Previous occupants live on through etchings in the walls of closets; possessions left behind dating back to the ’50s remind us of where we came from; and the countless stories, lore and (probably) myths have made the house a shrine to its alumni. What I’d like to remind everyone about culture is that, once destroyed, it cannot be brought back. It’s not just undergrads, but also American culture, that lives within the houses on Webster Ave. To destroy it would be an affront not just to Dartmouth but to this great country that we’ve built “out of wilderness” in just 4 centuries. To destroy any part of that history would be truly criminal. From a practical perspective, it seems the undergrads have a plan and are ready to implement — once can ask nothing more of a group of people. And, even if the Greek houses disappeared, Dartmouth social life would simply reorganize around similarly selective groups but without Greek letters in the name (c.f. Eating Clubs, Final Clubs, and other fraternity-variants at other Ivies) and the exact same issues would remain. In fact, they may turn even worse — without the long-standing structure of the Greek system to moderate behavior, underground activities with no standards of behavior would come to dominate Dartmouth’s social life. And to think that the eradication of Greek-lettered societies would abolish the implicit notions of social groups that have existed since the beginning of time itself is simply silly. One need only look at Finals Clubs to see why Dartmouth fraternities — which are inclusive, fundamentally open to the campus, and steeped in history — are preferable to the closed, aristocratic and entirely unregulated behavior we see with our peers at Harvard. And though perhaps under-reported, the treatment of women and minorities at the Finals Clubs I’ve heard about is truly abhorrent — sexual assault being my chief concern. No Dartmouth fraternity I’ve ever set foot in would allow the behavior I’ve heard of at Harvard. To be clear, never once in my experience did I witness or hear of any sexual assault (although there was an accusation my junior year the police later determined to be unfounded); with regard to drinking, certainly I can’t deny having seen it done in excess, but to be candid, nobody died. And that’s not sarcasm — of my high school class, we have lost 4 young souls of a class of 200 to drug- or alcohol-related incidents already. The 1000-strong Dartmouth class of ’09 has had zero. And there’s something to be said about that. My experience in my fraternity cannot be described in words — it was a maturing experience, an enriching experience, and a humbling experience — I wouldn’t give it up for anything. From Robert Frost to Jeff Immelt, myriad successful Dartmouth graduates began their adult lives in a Greek house. It’s where they became men or women; it’s where their home, truly, is, and someplace they’ll never forget. On a more practical level — for all those of us who want to see Dartmouth thrive in the future — it seems important to point out that many Dartmouth students choose the school precisely because its rural location forces social life into the Greek system; this is, in my estimation, not only more enriching but far safer than young adults venturing into a big city like Boston or New York to have fun on Saturday. Without the Greeks, the social life would be stunted; would Dartmouth still attract the masses it does without a social life? Or would it degrade into a clone of U. Chicago, but without Chicago to entice? And on a more crass level, the vast majority of Dartmouth alumni (myself included) feel strongly about their Greek affiliation. I hope to one day contribute to Dartmouth financially, but destroying the very place where I grew, where I studied, where I had my heart broken and dreams granted — this would certainly diminish the importance of such contributions to me. And I would bet that most of Dartmouth’s donor base would echo this sentiment wholeheartedly. None of us want our homes burned and the earth salted — especially in a vain attempt to correct problems that have been occurring at colleges across the country, Greek and non-Greek alike. I would ask the steering committee to keep in mind that the destruction of the Greeks is to throw away a part of American history, and possibly to morph Dartmouth into something it never was nor intended to be — a big gamble to make on a plan one has no good reason to think will work. The Greek houses have become a scapegoat. I would ask that the steering committee not destroy years of history — and possibly Dartmouth itself — just to find the same problems and a new scapegoat next time around. Those houses that have transgressed in their behavior should be punished, and perhaps even disbanded — but the system itself should be lauded as a jewel in American higher education without compare. Jason Victor ’09
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. The proposals made by the Greek Councils represent an enormous shift in traditional Greek social life on on campus. The steps in place to help restructure the existing system are well thought out and practical. I wholeheartedly support them in pursuing and attaining these goals, and preserving the positive aspects of being a member of a Greek organization. The experiences I had in the KKG sisterhood are many of my most special memories of Dartmouth, and prepared me well for contributing to other organizations over the last 15 years. Taking an active role in meetings, philanthropy, and supporting friends in their academic endeavors, all were part of my well-rounded Dartmouth experience. I also consider myself highly academic, and being in a sorority did not quell my intellectual curiosity. Rather, it provided a solid, secure foundation socially that allowed me greater flexibility in pursuing my studies. My KKG sisters have continued to provide a strong professional network post-graduation.
Why does the college go through this re-thinking of the Greek system every decade or so? Isn’t the Greek system part of the backbone of the social experience at Dartmouth? And if anything, the Greek system at Dartmouth is somewhat unique in that it’s not very exclusionary…I never saw anyone (Greek or non-Greek, white or black, Jew or Christian, straight or gay, etc.) turned away from any event when I was there (Beta Theta Pi) or at any other house. That’s something the College should be proud of…
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I believe the students involved in the Greek societies are committed to reform. This creates a wonderful opportunity for the Administration to work with the students. Improving a system that is loved by current students and alums is the right answer. Abolishing the societies or mandating reform that the Administration wants, but is not supported by the students involved in the Greek system, is a great way to satisfy the vocal opposition, but will disenfranchise a significant portion of the current student body (and alums). I very much hope that you give these students a chance at reform.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. My wife, Kelly Robertson Saltzgaber ’86, and I encouraged our son, Trammell Saltzgaber ’18, to attend Dartmouth because of the incredible experience we had at the school. Not once during her four years there did she ever feel threatened or intimidated by the fraternity system. I was a member of Beta Theta Pi, and to this day, see my fraternity brothers on a regular basis. Other friends in town are amazed that I have such a tight knit group of college friends. I owe almost all of this to the fraternity system at Dartmouth. The bonds I made there have been one of the highlights of my life.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I believe that the Greek system at Dartmouth can and should be a part of the process of change and improvement regarding these important issues. Dartmouth has a chance to be a leader here — including these organizations in this process is critical to achieving change.
Far too many and too detailed regulations are proposed only for the purpose of controlling the life of students who elect to join a fraternity or sorority. Are any other student organizations the subject of any such rules and regulations? Are all Dartmouth students subject to the same rules and regulations? The college has thrived for 245 years without measures intended to suppress individuality and personal choice on such a selective basis. Students who happen to be members of fraternities and sororities should be subject only to the the same rules and regulations as apply to all Dartmouth students, regardless membership in one of the many organizations, clubs, and other activities at the College. Beta, and all of the fraternities and sororities, should not cave in to the proposed demands that social status will inform the content of particular student rules and regulations.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today.1 The Greek system at Dartmouth was the reason I chose the school and like most who go to Dartmouth I had my choice of “Ivys” to attend. I chose Dartmouth specifically for the true college experience it uniquely offers notwithstanding the fact that Dartmouth exists in relative social and cultural isolation. By banishing the one social outlet that Hanover has to offer a young adult you will create far worse issues and problems as the students WILL seek other less organized and unregulated venues to find social interaction. Banishing the Greek system at Dartmouth will damage the school and create far worse problems as the students social life will go underground!
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Some of my most fond and formative experiences while at Dartmouth took place as part of the Greek system. I can not imagine my four years without it and am both saddened and disappointed by calls for the system’s expulsion.
This is an excellent plan to address the issues!
Save the Greeks, its the heart and soul of the Dartmouth experience!
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I believe that the Greek organizations can be an overwhelming force of change in solving Dartmouth’s problems. I believe that without the Greek system, the problems that Dartmouth will face will be even worse, not better, than they are today. I believe that without the input of the Greek organizations, any change will only escalate the conflict between the already polarized student body.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Eric Anderson
I am writing in support of the Greek Proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. The proposal convincingly demonstrates the power of the Greek system itself to be an active agent and collaborator with the college administration in the effort to combat the excesses of a few. No, it will never work perfectly, but the system–with its considerable influence on the college’s “civil society,” so to speak–is an asset rather than a liability. Dartmouth is a reformist, not a revolutionary, institution. Doing away with the Greek system will bring with it a whole host of unforeseen negative consequences, without necessarily correcting the underlying problem. It is worth keeping in mind that the issues affecting Dartmouth have also been visible recently at colleges with no Greek system at all or with a very minor one. Something much broader, perhaps even generational, is causing the problem. That is what needs to be addressed, and the Greek system should be leading the way. One possibility not considered in the Greek Proposal is involving alumni of the houses in this effort as well. While those of us in older generations had our own excesses, we are baffled by some aspects of the new nightlife on campuses around the country, including those without fraternities and sororities. As a faculty member (elsewhere) myself, I take the Dartmouth faculty support for the total abolition of the Greek system with a grain of salt. Most of my academic colleagues would also readily vote to abolish or curtail athletics at their campuses! The analogy is worth considering. What is it that makes Dartmouth so beloved by its alumni? How would you explain the extraordinary spirit of camaraderie–another word for fraternity in its broadest meaning–that the college awakens in its students? Some part of that is certainly down to academics and the life of the mind that Dartmouth has learned to appreciate since President Freedman’s time. But just as much comes from the college’s remote setting and the social effort to survive it. The wilderness itself provides some collective feeling, if indirectly, but athletic events and the Greek system do more to foster communal experiences than anything else provided by the institution, now that the church has definitively and appropriately lost this function. The only viable alternative remaining is a non-Greek residential house system in the manner of Harvard, Penn, and UChicago. I believe this option has been discussed at Dartmouth before. It is worth noting, however, that these systems–which date only back to the 1920s/30s–typically thrive in urban areas, where the houses also provide a modicum of security from the surrounding streets. Will the absence of that threat encourage Dartmouth students to live in a collegiate house system, or will they simply opt to live off-campus and recreate their own social practices outside the purview of the college? If they would otherwise opt for the latter, would there be stricter requirements on where students can live, in order to “fill” the houses that Dartmouth will now be obligated to own & operate? My advice would be to follow a different course. Why not organize a collective campus effort to investigate the origins and history of the Greek system, replete with symposia, museum exhibits, publications, etc., in order that students today better understand and in some ways recuperate the original purpose of these institutions? This would not be a celebration but a critical examination of a very significant feature of Dartmouth history and its college experience, though which ample reflection on the good, the bad, and the evolution of the Greek system would inevitably but organically take place for all of us. Such an effort would help guide the needed reform or make plain why reform is not enough by highlighting why these houses existed in the first place and how they lost some of that vision over time. If designed and funded correctly, students would take direct part in this initiative, thereby spreading the lessons widely among their peers. Brown University did something similar in the last decade, investing resources and public attention into an examination of the role of the slave trade in its origins. This was done in order to address a hidden issue and to pay some kind of intellectual/institutional reparations for its ignominious past, so the example does not quite fit what Dartmouth needs to do in relation to its Greek system. Still, the Brown initiative did wonders to fuse the academic and social sides of the community, including alumni, around a discussion of a key aspect of the institutional history that needed to be addressed in order to shape its future. I’d be happy to talk more about this idea further with anyone interested. But it’s just a thought — the main purpose of this message is to lend my general support to the Greek Proposal coming from the houses themselves, for the reasons explained above. Sincerely, Brian Bockelman ’95 Associate Professor of History Ripon College
I applaud the efforts the Greek community has made to deal with issues facing Dartmouth. Excessive drinking is an issue Dartmouth owns, not the Greek system. As an alum, and as the parent of a female ’18, I believe I have a unique window on some of the social issues facing the Dartmouth student population. My wife and I have been struck by the amount of excessive drinking that occurs outside of the Greek community: in the freshman dorms, among sports teams, club meetings of all kinds. It seems that every gathering of students necessitates a game of pong. Abolishing the Greek system will not resolve this issue, and will likely exacerbate it. In fact, the only “dry” events my daughter has attended as a freshman have been at the fraternities.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Being a member of a greek organization at Dartmouth was an essential element of my educational, professional and personal development. It provides experience and opportunity in leadership and management roles, and a mandate and platform to benefit the community through coordinated action. Through that process I have gained life-long friendships, both among my classmates and alumni in classes that are many years removed from my class year. If I had not been a part of a greek organization, I would never have had that opportunity. Dartmouth would provide lesser opportunities for its students without greek organizations that provide single-sex or co-ed housing for their members at the election of the organization. We all realize that greek organizations should be reformed. Zeta Psi has recently completed that process and should be a valuable example to the Dartmouth community.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. By far, the most enduring ties I have from my time in Hanover are the relationships I forged at 5 Webster Avenue. I can still recall the times I reappeared in Hanover from an off-term – the pure joy and excitement that hit me once I turned my car down Webster Avenue. I have that same feeling each time I return to Dartmouth. For me, Phi Delt and Greek life at Dartmouth presented an opportunity for my classmates and I to govern ourselves in a place we could truly make our own. It was a safe haven from the rigors and stresses that come with attending a world-class academic institution. Sure, it was a place to cut loose on occasion, but it was also a place to share ideas, stories, and, perhaps most significantly, Dartmouth’s heritage and history through the lore of alumni. The Greek system is part of the glue that helps Dartmouth do what so many other institutions cannot – transcend generations and breed an unmatched loyalty to our institution. The conversation, as it has been portrayed in the D and elsewhere, is plagued by tunnel vision. Contrary to the views of a vocal minority, the Greek system at Dartmouth is one of the most inclusive places at any college in the United States. It’s the only Greek system that I’ve witnessed where exclusivity and turning people away is the exception, not the rule. It’s almost always open and welcoming (I say “almost” because, obviously, you can’t create some utopia where nothing bad ever happens to anybody). The real issues that need to be addressed appear to be a change in awareness and attitude regarding sexual assault, severe binge drinking, and, yes, even some students’ own unfortunate biases. These are issues that won’t be remedied through severe regulation of the Greek system or treating Dartmouth students as though they’re not “official” adults. These issues also won’t be remedied through the abolition of the Greek system. These issues exist everywhere – just look at the number of Title IX investigations initiated across the country and the types of schools involved. The biases some students have grown up with do not magically disappear once they show up in Hanover. They also won’t magically disappear if the Greek system is no more. No, these issues will migrate elsewhere, but still be present. If the social scene moves to bars, dorms, or elsewhere, these issues will continue. So, instead, why not simply address these issues through the open social environment that already exists? By severely regulating the freedom of Dartmouth students to associate in the Greek system, or by abolishing the Greek system as a whole, you would only be devaluing or destroying of the one greatest things about Dartmouth College. Please, I urge you, do not destroy this enduring part of our enduring institution – it may have it’s flaws, “and yet, there are those who love it!”
I have already submitted thoughts via the Steering Committee site so will keep this brief. I am proud of the current and alumni leadership of the Greek system at Dartmouth for standing up for itself against this most recent barrage of attacks, and working to improve itself to ensure that I will always have a home to back to at Dartmouth, to a place where I had some of the best friendships and experiences in my life.
As a proud Dartmouth and Tri-Delta Alumna, I am writing in support of the Greek System. The networking opportunities, national name recognition, and social outlet values of the Greek system at Dartmouth are three of the many reasons I believe that the Greek system should remain at Dartmouth. All of my closest friends at Dartmouth rushed different houses. In doing this, we did not drift apart and separate as one might expect, but instead had the opportunity to join in the social events, cocktail hours, semi-formals, formals, and other events of all of the fraternities and sororities on campus. Some of my close friends did not rush a house, and they were ALWAYS welcome to join in to Greek social events, and almost always did join in. The social and charitable events offered by the Greek houses are a way for students to interact in a social setting, bond with their peers, and form relationships that will last into their professional careers. The mission of fraternities and sororities is one of positive action in the community and of creating a network of students and alumni. I attended the Tri-Delta national conference while in college, and connected with women from around the country (including from my own high school). After graduation, I made contacts in a new city through sorority alumnae events. I have been asked in multiple job interviews about my sorority connection, and have found mentors, colleagues, and friends who shared my Greek affiliation. I know many Dartmouth alumni who have found jobs and gotten started on their career path through the help of alumni of their Greek affiliation. Further, I met my husband at a Fraternity cocktail hour, and he and his fraternity brothers have treated my female friends and me with nothing but respect in the almost 10 years that I have known them. In fact, I have never had a negative experience in a fraternity. In my experience, Greek men are caring individuals who would look out for other students, male and female, and make sure that everyone was safe and happy. There were times in college when my friends and I drank too much, and I can recall many instances in which fraternity brothers helped us get home safely, and checked on us the next day. I realize that there are outliers in this system, and that unspeakable things have happened on campus through the years. However, I firmly believe that abolishing the fraternity system will not fix this problem. Abolishing the fraternity system will take away the safe environment for underage drinking (because undergraduates are going to drink). Dartmouth should be fostering a safe environment for students in which they can turn to Dartmouth for help in a crisis, not hide their alcohol usage, which could have deadly consequences. The Greek system is a safe environment, where undergraduates can grow up and share their experiences with one another. The most wonderful thing about Dartmouth is its people–professors, students, and staff. In my time at Dartmouth, the Greek system welcomed everyone on campus to share in the camaraderie of Greek life, and I hope that Dartmouth continues to show it’s welcoming attitude toward students, both Greek and non-Greek, and does not treat the Greek system as a scapegoat for the negative press that Dartmouth has received in recent years.
I am writing in support of the “Greek Proposal” published by the Gender-Inclusive Greek Council, the Interfraternity Council and the Panhellenic Council. I oppose the abolition of fraternities and sororities. The Greek houses are a positive part of the Dartmouth experience. Dartmouth students would suffer from a lack of social options without them. Greek institutions are not the cause of the various incidents which have been cited as reasons for abolishing fraternities and sororities.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Throwing out the baby with the bathwater is an ignorant solution. Here are a number of organizations that the students want to belong to which, with some adult (do we have any?) supervision for continuity, and student commitment to higher goals could take Dartmouth to a higher level and distinguish the school. Administrative social engineering has never worked and never will.
The Greek system was a vital part of my — and so many of my classmates’ — vibrant and memorable experience at Dartmouth, and essential to our deep nostalgia and loyalty to Dartmouth. There are many cultural and institutional problems with the current state of affairs, to be sure, and this proposal does a nice job of attempting to address several of those problems as an alternative to the rapid abolition of the system. I hope the administration thinks carefully about the full impact of destroying the Greek system.
I truly believe that my Dartmouth Experience would have been much less substantial without the friendships I formed through my fraternity. The connections I have built with these other outstanding gentlemen go as deep as I could hope. They match and often exceed me in many aspects, notably intellect, athleticism and integrity. These are people I know will be my friends for the rest of my life. Through the time I have spent at Phi Delta Alpha, I can truly call myself a better person. Of course I have been paying attention as many ugly faces of the Greek system have come to light, but I do not think these are the fault of the system at large, but of malicious individuals. Dartmouth, as it stands, is an amazing place to spend ones college years. It offers a superior undergraduate experience that I have found to be unparalleled as I learn more about my other friends college experiences. I am not sure this will remain true without the Greek System to supplement Dartmouths classrooms, so it is extremely concerning to hear chatter of abolition.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I believe that the Greek experience has been one of the most enduring symbols of my Dartmouth Experience. I continue to see fraternity brothers after leaving the Hanover Plain 44 years ago. We see each other socially at Weddings and periodic reunions and also have more than a 20 year history of skiing together. While acknowledging that the abuses cited, have regrettably always occurred at Dartmouth, the suggestions by the groups above, lay out a thoughtful approach to condoning reasonable social behaviors and banning together to disincent behaviors which destroy the fabric of inclusion, responsible social actions, and excessive consumption of alcohol. I am in favor of giving these ideas a chance to succeed.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. These proposals are both forward thinking and constructive and deserve support. Earle Patterson
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I’m impressed with the thoroughness and thoughtfulness of this proposal. Only those on campus can gauge its sincerity, but it’s an impressive step forward.
These kids are pretty smart. You should listen to them.
I recently received this year’s Dartmouth calendar, whose cover reads “Learn by Doing”. In the midst of this great debate over Greek Life at Dartmouth, upon seeing these words, I was immediately overcome with feelings of support for the Greek system. I participated in many extracurriculars as an undergraduate, and my experience at PhiDelt was without out a doubt the greatest “learn by doing” experience I had at Dartmouth. The process of self-governance inherent to Dartmouth’s greek system is one of the most powerful experiences available to Dartmouth students. When I think about what makes Dartmouth Alumni on average palpably more confident and capable than Alumns of other schools, I think about what it meant to feel responsible for the culture, reputation, and basic functioning of a significant organization soon after arriving on campus. The Greek System is at the heart of Dartmouth’s strength as an institution and I support this proposal for its reform.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I’d like to add that I am very impressed with the proposal the undergraduates have put together and think they have gone above and beyond what is really necessary. With the commitment they seem to be showing to making positive change, I think the College would be foolish not accept these reforms for the benefit of all undergraduates at Dartmouth.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. This constitutes a well thought out, well articulated message that will preserve the truly great elements of the Greek system, while instituting needed reforms. Jared E. Klee
I am writing in absolute and unwavering support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I graduated recently from Dartmouth and have been distressed by the blatant and periodically unjust treatement of the greek system. While it is true that the greek syste has flaws, It is more than willing to adapt in any way, shape, or form. My time at Dartmouth was shaped by my membership at Zeta Psi in the best possible ways. I cannot conceive of a Dartmouth without greek life, it is part of the experience of Dartmouth College. No other school in the country has such a unique and inviting greek environment. Abolishing Greek life could quite possibly be the worst decision the school has ever contemplated.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. In my infrequent visits to Hanover, I have seen a major degradation in the conduct of fraternity members and the conditions in the house. Without substantial and lasting change, the houses should be banned. But the true value of fraternity life is the unique opportunity to develop deep and lasting friendships. Among my closest friends are Phi Delt fraternity brothers. So keep the fraternities open as long as they adhere to a much higher set of standards than has been in place of late. But do not forget that many of the drinking and other problems on college campuses today are found in fraternity and non-fraternity life. Make the entire student body clean up its act.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. Eliminating the Greek system is NOT the answer. I have a son at Bates, and a daughter at Bowdoin. (Neither one wished to apply to Dartmouth, because of the foolishness represented on campus by the occupation of President Hanlon’s office, but that is a topic for another day). Bates and Bowdoin have both abolished their Greek systems. Both schools continue to have problems with binge drinking, sexual assaults, and inclusivity. Absolutely nothing has been gained in the transition, except some “brownie points” for pandering to the vocal anti-Greek elements of the faculty. Bates and Bowdoin lack a meaningful social “scene”, offer limited recreational opportunities for non-athletes, and are frankly pretty boring places to spend one’s college years. There is still recreational binge drinking, but it’s gone “underground”. And unlike Webster Avenue, there are precious few affinity groups on campus (unless you are a Polar Bear or Bobcat athlete), to provide a sense of belonging, and emotional support during times of stress. I very strongly suspect that, if there was some objective measure of mental health, you would find colleges and universities which have abolished the Greek system, have student bodies that are more stressed, more depressed, and far less mentally-healthy than Dartmouth today. Please have the intellectual integrity to do some real-world “market research” of your peer institutions, rather than just succumbing to the harping and griping of a small, anti-youth and anti-“fun” segment of your student body and faculty. Have the intestinal fortitude to do what is right, rather than simply following the path of least resistance. Doing so would go a long way toward restoring my faith in my alma mater.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. From the time I arrived on campus ten years ago to my graduation six years ago, my experiences on the Hanover plain were nothing if not idyllic, something every Dartmouth student should have the opportunity to enjoy. Even including the opportunities to study with world-renowned scholars, kayak along the Connecticut, and participate in intercollegiate athletics, the most significant factor in the positively formative experiences by which I and so many of my classmates were shaped took place because of our affiliation with and leadership in the Dartmouth Greek system. In fact, my primary philanthropic motivation in giving back to Dartmouth, as I have every year since graduation, is to enhance the academic, athletic, extracurricular, and Greek experiences–the same experiences that I once enjoyed–of Dartmouth’s current students. Today, the campus climate appears hostile and detrimental to learning, creating bonds, and building academic, athletic, and extracurricular community. While I believe that change is imminently necessary to resolve issues that divide race and gender on campus, it is deeply embarrassing as an alumnus to see the Dartmouth student experience negatively portrayed on the national stage over the last several months, without an appropriate response by Dartmouth’s administration denouncing those who would seek to divide campus and supporting those who are working to unify it. During the Civil Rights Era, the Dartmouth Greek system improved upon its tradition of excellence and exemplified resilience and leadership by example through its rejection of racially discriminatory admittance policies imposed by national fraternity chapters. By all accounts, the newest generation of Dartmouth’s Greek leaders are presently working in concert to mitigate campus divisiveness and eradicate unacceptable and criminal behavior from the Greek system’s ranks. It is incumbent upon Dartmouth’s academic leaders and their delegates on the Steering Committee to work with the leaders of the Dartmouth Greek system to improve the campus climate and the Greek system, not to dismantle both.
I strongly support the student-driven Greek proposal to address these pressing issues and encourage the Steering Committee’s consideration of their proposal. As an educational institution, Dartmouth’s vitality in its largest measures derives from its current students, whose voice should be heard among all others.
I find it ridiculous that the Administration claims that they “know” the student body, when in fact if they did “know” us, they would understand WHY an overwhelming majority of students who are eligible to be affiliated, are actually affiliated. There is a reason why we want to be affiliated and it has nothing to do with the Administration’s opinion. It has nothing to do with all the misconceptions that the Administration has. We, the students, know what we are involved in. As students of one of the most prestigious colleges in the country, we know how to read the fine-print of situations, especially ones that involve our social life while we are chasing our academic goals. We know what the fraternities are, we know what the sororities are. And we don’t need the Administration brandishing its sword, swearing that the Greek system will be abolished. We need the Administration to support us affiliated students, not disrupt a way of life we determined to have once we accepted our bids.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I strongly doubt that I will donate to Dartmouth if the greek system gets abolished, as it has been central to my college experience, and Dartmouth will not be the same without one.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I loved being a part of the Greek system at Dartmouth and while there are many things that should be changed or fixed, abolishing the system altogether is terrible idea. Regards, Tom
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. The only solution that will have lasting impact will come from the grassroots. More administration and committees will not solve this problem.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. My fraternity experience went far beyond the parties and social life. It provided valuable experience for post-Dartmouth life, such as expressing and respectfully debating principals and opinions that others may not have agreed with, being able to say no and be respected for it when I didn’t want to drink, resolving conflict, and similar life skills. I would surmise that every club, team, and other organization at Dartmouth adds value to its members, and the Greek system is no exception. Please allow the Greek system to continue evolving as a strong aspect of the Dartmouth experience rather than singling it out for termination. Thank you.
I am writing in support of the Greek proposal to address some of the most visible and pressing issues at Dartmouth today. I made some of my best friends through the Greek system as well as had many of the best experiences of my college career through the Greek system. I made friends with people I would have never met through academic settings, got involved with Abolishing the Greek system will drive drinking into the dorms or off-campus and will lead to dangerous situations where students will be even less likely to seek out help if they or a friend drinks too much. Having a house on campus is the main reason I still feel connected with the school and it gives me a reason to want to visit and to donate to the school. Losing the Greek system would be a major loss even as an alumnus.